Maiden Newton and Frome Vauchurch

Tuesday, March 21, 2006

New development at the end of Stanstead Road

The development at the end of Stanstead Road has been passed despite a record number of objections to it from just about everyone in Stanstead Road and, unaccountably, someone on the Isle of Wight. I have copied below a few comments posted elsewhere.
It is a Magna Housing development and therefore will provide relatively low cost housing for the village. It has certainly been a concern that all the recent development has been for very expensive properties - Manor Farm, Harvey's Close and the Corn Stores. This proposal and the other one next to Hill View will redress the balance a little. Of course this is of little comfort to those living nearby.

Here are some earlier posts from Tuesday 21st March:

Anonymous said...

I see the housing has got through even though there was a lot of people against it.I want to build a house so my children can live in the village do you think i would be able too,I doubt it i'm not a builder or magna and there is not enough money in it for the council(i wonder who got what out of it)it's the same in Frampton how on earth could those awful things get through obviously some one got something

2:12 PM

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Anonymous said...

I wonder when the local council will allow people who actually live in MN/FV to build houses for thier families rather than outsiders,our children can't afford to live in our own villages and the council just isn't helping.We should be allowed to have propertis built to help our own but it is always decided by people who DO NOT live here H

2:17 PM

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Anonymous said...

Yet more houses going up but the roads are not ready for all the extra traffic no thought as usual when will they learn,MN the new Poundbury.S

2:20 PM

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posted by John at 11:57 pm

24 Comments:

  • Yet more housing Yet more money for the council,but as usual less thought for the local people villages are being ruined with continual housing going up but as somebody said yet more traffic.What kind of people will we be lumbered with this time NUT

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 22 March, 2006  

  • I cannot understand why this has been passed. As pointed out, there appears to be a record number of objections for a variety of reasons. The majority of these state safety as a cause of concern but still, they have been passed. It will be interesting to see where the access road will be. At least I have learnt one thing, if at first you don't succeed, just try, try and try again. Now, where is that appeals page............

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 23 March, 2006  

  • is there 2 different housing projects going on at Frome View or am i imagining it.And 20 houses and flats at the station,is there anywhere left to build i wonder if Prescott has shares in these companies lol.I still think affordable housing is needed but the roads need to be better to cope with all this extra traffic,the current residents need to be looked out for as well as the new,don't forget most of us have lived here a long time and should not be forgotten.S

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 27 March, 2006  

  • The thing i would like to know is,people with plots of land that would be suitable for building as long as in character with its surroundings are never allowed to build,there children would then have cheap housing rented off of thier parents and there would be no need to keep letting builders and housing associations build these large ugly developements.The character of the villages should be considered so let the locals build and not the chosen few.A planning application was turned down recently near Natalia terrace due to local opposition,due to it being dangerous etc even with local opposition over the suitability in stanstead road for the same reasons it was allowed how come?The council is bloody mad and needs a good kick up the arse,but alas they can do what they like......

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 27 March, 2006  

  • There is more money in it for the council if there are alot of houses rather than just the odd one,we will all be watching the planning pages carefully from now on to see who gets what!H

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 27 March, 2006  

  • The local concillors and parish concil's have no clout at all and if they did they would not allow new housing if the local people didn't want it.Some of the thing's being allowed are just plain stupid people should have the support from these people.We obviousley need housing but the amount is daft it is getting to big the community is growing far to quickly,local people are being refused planning due to boundaries etc,surely one house in character is far better for the area rather than another Frampton.These big builders are getting away with murder,somebody said that it's like the legal system large companies can find loop holes because they have the money,give the locals the same edge as these,don't forget the people who live here because at the end of the day the next generation will not want to stay here and we will have a village of outsider's which will be a shame.......

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 29 March, 2006  

  • IT MAKES ME LAUGH THE BAKER'S WANTED A SIGN PUT UP BUT THIS WAS REFUSED,BUT THE CORNER SHOP WAS ALLOWED,A PERSON WANTED TO REPLACE A SHED AND HAD TO PAY TO GET PLANNING PERMISSION,A LARGE BUILDING FIRM REQUEST PLANNING FOR A LOAD OF NEW HOUSES AND SURPRISE SURPRISE THEY GET IT.THIS KIND OF DECISION MAKING JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW UNFAIR THE PLANNING SYSTEM IS AND HOW THE NORMAL HARD WORKING PEOPLE ARE PUT DOWN,THEY TRY TO DO BETTER FOR THEMSELVES AND TO BE HONEST THEY ARE JUST LET DOWN BY THYE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIER SIDE.THE WORRYING THING IS THESE ARE THE SAME PROPLE WE HAVE FIGHTING OUR CORNER FOR NOT HAVING A PERMANENT TRAVELLER'S SITE IN OUR VILLAGE(VERY WORRYING ISN'T IT)BUT THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE HAPPY UNTILL OUR VILLAGES ARE OVER RUN THE SCHOOL CLOSED DUE TO PEOPLE REFUSING TO SEND THIER CHILDREN THERE AND THE COUNTRYSIDE RUINED,BUT DO THEY CARE!NO OF COURSE NOT MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THESE DECISIONS DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE AND THE ONE'S THAT DO DON'T GIVE A TOSS ABOUT THE LOCAL'S.IT'S ABOUT TIME WE ALL STAND OUR GROUND AND PUT THE COUNCIL'S IN THIER PLACE AFTER ALL WE END PAYING FOR THIS IN OUR EVER RISING COUNCIL TAX........

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 30 March, 2006  

  • The new houses that are going to be built by the station are on conservation land,if this was a normal person it would probably be refused,but again it's a large firm so it will probably get passed the planning system is alway's geared up towards large rather than small,more houses are up for sale in the villages,no doubt people are sick with rate the villages are growing.The local people are being pushed out and the council and the Parish council are doing nothing about it as usual........

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, 09 April, 2006  

  • Are the houses by the station going to be affordable housing or not?ST

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • I am pretty sure that a proportion (about 25%, I think) will have to be affordable. They fall under regulations that were not in force when the Harvey's Close and Manor Farm developments were passed.

    Does anyone know anything about the idea that the land up by the Station was "conservation land", it is the first I have heard of such a thing.

    By Blogger John, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • Many thanks for that,the land being conservation is stated on the planning application i think.ST

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • It also states it affects a listed building.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • all of the planning applications state either conservation land etc...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • I think that is disgusting how Magna can just charge in build houses and ignore the local people,as i have alway's said big companies don't give a damn about people and are allowed to do what they like.Ithink Angela from the echo might be able to find out from her little legal book how people stand maybe bring it to the local paper's attention,good luck...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, 09 May, 2006  

  • Sorry about the info earlier the ladies name is miranda,she seem's very up on thing's and also works for the echo so give her a try..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, 09 May, 2006  

  • What has the council said about this problem,surely they should be able to do something about it.I agree with the comment on the local paper,you should contact them and get them to find out more.ST

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 10 May, 2006  

  • Does anybody know if the housing by the station is affordable?I don't think it is the advert for thier houses are advertised as exclusive so where is the affordable housing we are supposed to need.Yet again it's just big companies making big money at the expense of the local people it's about time the council thought more about the people that pay thier wages rather than prifit.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Saturday, 26 August, 2006  

  • I take it the comment made about certain people getting planning was to near the mark to be published maybe the paper would be more appropriate

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Saturday, 26 August, 2006  

  • I don't know what was said but its probably too close to home hence no update on the planning page until decision day maybe,we will all be watching to see the outcome,it will probably get the ok because its MN and not FV and we all know the other reason.P

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Saturday, 02 September, 2006  

  • Maybe the local Echo reporter will get involved with the planning issue?P

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, 03 September, 2006  

  • I doubt it they have to be careful maybe a National paper would get it's teeth into it and have more clout,they only have to look at past applications they will soon see a pattern CN

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 04 September, 2006  

  • Whoops! Been caught napping again. Sorry - I'm about a month-and-a-half late in responding...
    In response to whether a reporter could investigate whether certain developers get planning over Joe Bloggs, I've said it before and I'll say it again - sing it with me folks - if someone has lots of cash to throw at a project they have the cash to hire consultants or experts to force an application through, so that councillors cannot have any legal or watertight objections. Councillors are advised by legal bods and despite feeling that an application is wrong they can't object if an application follows all the guidance laid down. Planning officers, however, can be a little more subjective, which is why the smaller applications by householders for this extension, that shed or those stone dogs in the driveway are often turned down - the planning officer simply doesn't like them, and it's only one person's opinion. Doubtless there are officers out there who would object to anything (I refer you, once again, to the poor sod who had to pay £130 to apply to REPLACE their 8x6 garden shed in Stanstead Road...) There are covert traffic wardens in every occupation.
    This - because councillors are heavily scrutinised - is the only reason for the us and them situation as regards planning.
    The only situation I can see in the Echo's patch, where subtle and not-so-subtle class differences and snobbery have scandalously been used, is Poundbury. It's as if anything on the Duchy land goes, as far as I can see. As a social experiment I think it has worked however - rich and poor seem to co-exist pretty well, where everywhere else there are pockets of rich and pockets of poor where ne'er the twain shall mix. Maiden Newton has to be the most integrated village in Dorset I've ever lived in, on a personal note. I love the communication between all levels I have seen since moving here. You're all bloody lovely! Sob.
    But in direct response to the point made by 'anonymous' - won't you people even give yourselves a pseudonym so I can call you something? - you won't find a reporter at local or national level who will investigate on a half-formed, vague allegation - they just haven't got the time and, in the local reporter's case, no resources.
    Get a copy of a letter that shows something corrupt is going on. Make a tape recording, throw these people a bone. Vague feelings that something ain't right are the perfect basis to dig a little deeper, so do it! When you get something - anything - that backs up your argument, then give it to the Echo, or the nationals to follow up - we'll make it legally publishable if there's anything there.
    For anything to be published there has got to be strong evidence, or you'd have half the country doing an Opera Winfrey-style 'he said, she said', via the press.
    I know it's not right, that some developers should seemingly have the right to dig over your open green space near your house and build all over it, yet you can't stick a fence up to block the new houses out without having to fight for it.
    But there has to be a concrete basis for allegations of corruption.
    It's the way of the world. If you have money it doesn't half oil the wheels.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Saturday, 21 October, 2006  

  • there was a drain by the new houses at the station without a cover on,not even a barrier how is it that the builders are allowed to get away with this kind of thing it's the same as the calor gas tanks still no news on them,when are the council going to clamp down on these builders they get away with murder while the the rest of us mere mortals get pooped on from a grteat height.The council need a good kick up the bum.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 15 February, 2007  

  • Events to date:
    After many meetings/letters and bearding a Magna “Housing Officer” after he appeared in the back-garden having arrived and returned over our fence…
    June 12th 2006: letter from Magna’s Jill Brighouse stating intent to carry out independent evaluation of land concerned – 250m2 - re: compensation. Nothing further until:-
    June 29th 2007: letter from housing-officer Sean Craik to ensure that we were happy with “agreed” boundary and construction of a new fence. Presumably housing-officers Gill Brighouse and Danny Morris had been dispatched elsewhere. We replied that we were NOT satisfied with anything until the matter was dealt with as stated a year earlier. Suggested a meeting, which Mr. Craik declined.
    Oct. 5th 2007: Letter from Mr. Craik offering £400 in Full and Final Settlement. Declined the offer as this is about a landlord not being allowed to derogate from initial grant of land.
    Dec.28th 2007: Offer upped to £800, declined.
    Jan.26th 2008: A letter from Neil Chapillon (“Associate”) stating that surveyors would be attending the land to the rear of our property on 30th Jan. but that “there should be no reason for them to access you land during the course of the survey”. These surveyors did actually show up, although my partner says that they did not appear to know what they were doing. She has a building-background and I surveyed as part of my job for 15 years.
    Amazingly they also found it necessary to access our land to carry-out the survey.

    That was the last we heard from Magna to date. Since then work has started on the “Signpost” development and BR have renewed their fence along the rear of Frome View.
    We have been advised to get an immediate Injunction should Magna start works without further communication.

    By Blogger Chris H, at Tuesday, 15 April, 2008  

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