Maiden Newton and Frome Vauchurch

Wednesday, March 08, 2006

Possible permanent Traveller's site at Whitesheet Quarry

I have re-posted original comments as a single comment below.

If you haven't seen it already the letter I received from DCC regarding the total lack of information on this subject is on the web site.

It seems we will have to wait until June to here whether or not Whitesheet Quarry will be put forward as a possible permanent site. Then all the planning, environmental etc agencies will be consulted and local opinion sought (though the latter is unlkely to present any surprises). It is actually in Toller etc. Parish but I think MN Parish Council and perhaps FV Parish Meeting will be informed though I am sure they are keeping a close ear to the ground on this matter anyway.

I believe that the whole issue of WSQ being a potential site should have been kept secret, just as many other potential sites have been kept secret, but that it leaked out.

I know that one of the main concerns is that a "property blight" will settle on the village, well I can tell you that this has already happened.

posted by John at 8:01 am

32 Comments:

  • S:
    The letter was as you say very vague and gave nothing away at all.I personally hope this will not go through as we will see the villages go down hill.The work mentioned looks like the owner (who ever he is) has made hard standing for caravans already,even though he has informed councillors (who seem very gullible)that he is clearing it up i understand that he has been refused planning for a caravan site so why has the work been done?if it was a normal resident they would be unable to do this without some kind of penalty.The other point is i also understand that he doesn't even live in the area,so he won't give a t--s if it is a gypsy site or not,why should local people suffer because of people like him.If the site does go ahead i for one will be taking my child out of Greenford and if i have too educate my child from home.The other thing is that bothe villages need to come together over this issue and do something rather than all of us just moaning about it we need to make a stand.S

    S:
    I notice there is very little feed back about the site,maybe people just cant be bothered,it will affect US ALL S


    Anon:
    And all of our Council Tax bills will probably rise to pay for all the freebies that they get,we will not get anything out of it apart from grief while the guy that own's the site will be laughing his bo--oc-s off.Has anybody actually said why all the work has been allowed?the cllrs seem to think it is just being tidied up but it looks like far more than that to me,are the cllr's really that easy to fool!S

    By Blogger John, at Thursday, 09 March, 2006  

  • I think it is a shame that there is still little feed back about this issue.Is there anybody out there that is really bothered because if you are get off your ar-es and have your say

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, 12 March, 2006  

  • I agree that people seem very quiet about the issue,we all need to make a stand on this as all our house prices will plummet and our way of life will change for the worseC

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 13 March, 2006  

  • I wonder if Frampton was considered,they have plenty of space and nice pavements for the travellers to walk on (they might actually use them)or do too many councillors live there.C

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 13 March, 2006  

  • People may seem quiet about the issue but there are petitions at both Posnett's and the Post Office, unfortunately a lot of the comments are very reactionary and I don't think will hold much water at all when presented.
    At least the Travellers brought many children with them to boost the numbers at Greenford School, which is more that most of the people moving into the new houses have done.
    Another point is that most Travellers don't want allocated sites they like being on the move and not under the control that would be inevitable if they were herded into a "Traveller's Site".
    One more niggle, the travellers at White Sheet Quarry were NOT Gypsies.
    Most Romany Gypsies would have been appalled at the antics of the Travellers in Maiden Newton. Please don't tar them all with the same brush.

    By Blogger Deborah, at Monday, 13 March, 2006  

  • I agree about the comment all gypsies are not the same but will we be able to choose which type of gypsy we have if the site goes ahead,I doubt it and in my experience with them in other areas the school will probably lose pupils if they are the same type.One area i lived in parents took over half the pupils out of the school which ended up closing,this may sound harsh but i'm afraid it happens and i for one do not want to see this with Greenford as my child is very happy there. Hip

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 13 March, 2006  

  • My child happily co-existed with the traveller children at Greenford. OK so they wear old clothes and don't have access to proper washing facilities and might not be used to discipline but that is their parent's lifestyle choice, they are only children after all. Wouldn't it be dull if we were all the same?
    One of the mothers entertained the children at the Christmas Disco, which was much enjoyed.
    On a more disturbing note, my child came home today asking what "Gyppo" meant as she had heard it being used in the playground as an insult.
    I must say that I think that the proposed site at Whitesheet Quarry is totally innappropriate due to it's location, next to a busy road with no pavements.
    As to house prices dropping, that has happened to us already due to the lack of parking because of the double yellow lines and "road calming" measures. Despite the road calming I was nearly knocked down yesterday by a white car doing about 80 mph past the turning to Frome View.

    By Blogger Deborah, at Monday, 13 March, 2006  

  • It's got nothing to do with the old clothes etc,and i for one do not use the phrase Gyppo but you said yourself that they were not proper Gypsies and i think this is the point.Real Gypsies are very few and far between these day's did you actually see the site full of needles?and the local youngster's scoring drug's?Also when children were picked up at school by the so called Gypsies did you smell the petrol from nearly every car or the lack of tax and no doubt insurance.Finally on many occaisions the drivers drinking cans of beer at the wheel or smoking joints,you may want your children to see this kind of thing but i for one do not.It is not a normal way of life,also i'm sure you will be happy to pay more to cover the costs of all their freebies whilst our own children have very little spent on them to help live locally.As for the path and the double yellow lines i agree with you more should be done but it needs everybody to kick up a stink over issues rather than just the few.HIP

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, 14 March, 2006  

  • Larcansnovena made a good point about the comments in the shops these will not do any good unless they put a valid point over.Also the comment about the school,they may have put the numbers up but the education for our children suffered with the children being disruptive and alot of incidents of biting etc.They had more one to one teaching,and they even had teaching at the site,(who pays for that)?.C

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, 14 March, 2006  

  • Who actually owns the land at Whitesheet Quarry?

    By Blogger Deborah, at Tuesday, 14 March, 2006  

  • Good question,but they don't live here apparently,somebody must know who he is,he is doing this because he got refused planning

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, 14 March, 2006  

  • Apparently the owner is a Mr Woods...

    By Blogger Deborah, at Tuesday, 14 March, 2006  

  • I don't know him i'm afraid but even his appeal against the planning refusal has been withdrawn,so i don't know if that is a good sign or not.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 15 March, 2006  

  • Does anybody know where he lives.NUT

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 16 March, 2006  

  • Its not cllr woods that owns the quarry is it?C

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 23 March, 2006  

  • Cllr Wood definitely does not own the quarry.

    By Blogger John, at Thursday, 23 March, 2006  

  • Wow! One-to-one teaching? Can I move there?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, 26 March, 2006  

  • Just buy yourself a caravan pay no bills live off the state and yes you too can have one to one teaching,drive a car without tax and insurance,smoke pot and drink when picking your children (in the car) up from school risking not only their lives but the lives of our children you qualify.C

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 27 March, 2006  

  • If it does happen lets all protest in the streets and the council offices 100% government backing for travellers sites is a joke they probably invest more in them than they do the countryside will we get a huge discount in council tax and compensation for the house price crash.Let the council have them on thier doorstep we don't want it.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 27 March, 2006  

  • I think your right about the protest but the discount on council tax and compensation for houses you must be having a laugh.They will probably go up,and because they are scared of them we will probably see less police.The only thing that will go up is drug abuse and tension.As for the government financing it 100%that doesn't surprise me at all,like most thing's let's pi-- off the hard working tax payer because they have to pay whatever because they abide by the law and can't do anything about it,no wonder there is so much bad feeling amongst people it's because they all feel s-it on.The council can ruin lives and communities and get away with it,it's wrong.........

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 30 March, 2006  

  • Lets all buy caravan's and put them in the quarry we can all rent our houses out and live off the state no bills loads of freebies and 100% government backing sound's great oh and i forgot no car tax no council tax and our own law's who's up for it.P

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 30 March, 2006  

  • About people who are driving under the influence of drink/drugs. Why has no one taken the registration numbers and reported them to the police? This can be done anonymously. I am also curious why the school has let children go home accompanied by someone who is in a mood altered state, is this common practice?

    By Blogger Deborah, at Friday, 31 March, 2006  

  • They were reported to police on more than one occasion but nothing was done about it,they visited the site and that was about it.As for the school they did nothing about this or the fact that when quite a few children were bitten by one of the TRAVELLER'S children once again nothing was done.The main factor for this is the fear of upsetting them and that something may be done.This is what I am saying they have thier own law,and we can't do anything about it.There were also 2 incident's that i know of involving dog attacks on people's pets and thier owner's.Once again nothing done and i know one of these were reported to police who did nothing.If it does become a permanent site then this will only get worse,and it could happen to you or your children.As i said before i will certainly be taking my child out of Greenford if it does happen.S

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Friday, 31 March, 2006  

  • More houses up for sale nothing to do with the travellers pending they are killing the village already,let's hope they do the right thing and put it somewhere else or thing's will only get worse and nobody will be able to sell at all we all need to do something about it now!.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, 09 April, 2006  

  • I agree but what can be done,none of us want to see our communities be ruined by a permanent site,I also agree with the comment's made about the school,i will certainly not send my children to Greenford if it does happen,it needs everybody to stand firm,but sadly from past experience most people moan about things but alas never carry it through.SUE

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 12 April, 2006  

  • You are right i'm afraid people say thing's but never follow it through,they will be the first to moan if it does happen....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 19 April, 2006  

  • Has anybody seen the sun today page 31.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, 20 April, 2006  

  • What was the owner of WSQ planning that was turned down? Does anyone know the details of this? Deb

    By Blogger Deborah, at Saturday, 22 April, 2006  

  • I have noticed that the owner has got more large skip's on the land and has cleared more rubbish,i hope this does not mean they have already made up thier minds about the site!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Wednesday, 10 May, 2006  

  • Maybe instead of the government giving 100% grant for traveller's it would be better spent on pavement's in the village,but then again we are all british hard working tax paying people so we don't count do we.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, 22 May, 2006  

  • Does anybody know when the decision is being made about the site or have any news at all

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Friday, 16 June, 2006  

  • Does anyone have any updates about the proposed traveller's site?

    By Blogger Deborah, at Wednesday, 19 July, 2006  

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